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Following the release and subsequent commercial success of Todd Phillips’ Joker, director David Fincher had a thing or two to say about the controversial endeavor that polarized the population into harboring conflicting opinions. In an interview, the filmmaker condemned the nature of big Hollywood studios and their approach to film productions that serve as nothing more than cash cows.
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Additionally, he believed that the studio’s faith in a pursuit like the 2019 film wouldn’t have been cemented had it not been for Christopher Nolan’s triumphant attempts a decade earlier. What attracted considerable media attention, however, was the Gone Girl alum’s remark on the Joaquin Phoenix starrer being a “betrayal of the mentally ill”; a scathing assessment that supports one of the film’s most well-known criticisms.
The Dark Knight, released in 2008, offered movie-going audiences one of the finest cinematic experiences in the superhero genre. The acclaim and praise it received were profound. Christopher Nolan‘s endeavor amassed a stupefying $1.006 billion at the worldwide box office. When it comes to its critical reception, reviewers were especially mind-blown by Heath Ledger’s iconic portrayal of DC’s well-known criminal mastermind, the Joker. The pursuit left its mark on popular culture, as audiences look back on the movie with fondness and awe.
According to David Fincher, however, the 2008 Nolan-helmed project became one of the reasons why Warner Brothers affirmed their faith in Todd Phillips’ Joker becoming a “giant hit.” The studio had figures for comparison and they presumably knew what would work amongst audiences. Besides, Joker’s stature in popular mass media remains undefeated. He’s one of the most memorable villains in fictional history.
Talking to The Telegraph, the following is what the Zodiac director stated:
“Nobody would have thought they had a shot at a giant hit with ‘Joker’ had ‘The Dark Knight’ not been as massive as it was … I don’t think anyone would have looked at that material and thought, ‘Yeah, let’s take Travis Bickle and Rupert Pupkin and conflate them, then trap him in a betrayal of the mentally ill, and trot it out for a billion dollars,’”
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In a portrayal by Joaquin Phoenix that seemed to emulate a curious coalescence of two characters from renowned Martin Scorsese endeavors, namely, Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy, David Fincher claimed that Todd Phillips’ record-breaking psychological thriller served as a mockery of people who suffer from mental illnesses. Interestingly enough, Joker ended up surpassing even Nolan’s 2008 masterpiece, garnering a worldwide box office collection of $1.074 billion. It became the highest-grossing R-rated movie of all time.
Post the release of the film, many critics affirmed that Todd Phillips’ Joker worked towards perpetuating and cementing harmful stigmas around mental illnesses. Cinematic representations of such topics can often disseminate dangerous myths and reinforce false perceptions, carving a path toward prejudice and ignorance. Many were, however, in support of the Joaquin Phoenix starrer concerning its depiction of mental health. “This is not your typical stigmatizing tale of a crazed villain who should be exterminated by the hero.” stated psychiatrist Dr. Kamran Ahmed in an article published by The Sydney Morning Herald.
Opinions on the matter differ a lot. There’s no doubt that the movie’s complex premise gives birth to such contradicting statements.
Elaborating upon his qualms regarding the success of the Joaquin Phoenix starrer that earned the talent an Oscar for Best Actor, David Fincher stated that Warner Brothers’ confidence in the project’s ability to generate exponential revenue may have been influenced by their decision to have the right cast and to bring Robert De Niro along for the ride. However, the Fight Club director fails to imagine that a movie with such a narrative would have landed well amongst studio executives (and audiences) had it been envisioned in 1999.
The year is a nod to the now-iconic Brad Pitt and Edward Norton-starring drama thriller that gained a cult classic reputation only years after its release. “The fact we got that film made in 1999 is still, to my mind, a miracle,” commented Fincher about Fight Club.
The filmmaker then threw some light on the reality that governs every contemporary move made by major Hollywood studios. In his statement, David Fincher is particularly wary of these production houses, who in their conquest of garnering more money, refuse to take on projects that are “medium-priced” and grueling, yet original and innovative:
“The reality of our current situation is that the five families don’t want to make anything that can’t make them a billion dollars. None of them want to be in the medium-priced challenging content business. And that cleaves off exactly the kind of movies I make. What the streamers are doing is providing a platform for the kind of cinema that actually reflects our culture and wrestles with big ideas: where things are, and what people are anxious and unsure about. Those are the kinds of movies that would have been dead on arrival five years ago.”
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To further emphasize the gravity of the situation, David Fincher reflected on one of his movies starring Ben Affleck and Rosamund Pike. He stated that 2014’s Gone Girl with its “discordant, evaporating” ending, would have been inconceivable if the team failed to point out the relevance of the Gillian Flynn-penned source material, which found itself a suitable place on The New York Times bestseller list.
Fincher’s argument of Hollywood studios investing in films that would only guarantee them a return of “billion dollars” does point to a problem that dictates the very environment Hollywood thrives in. However, in recent years, many instances of indie filmmaking have challenged the mainstream, where innovative and risk-taking endeavors with a minimal budget, too, have reaped critical and commercial acclaim.
A follow-up to Todd Phillips’ contentious film, dubbed Joker: Folie à Deux, is in production and is slated for release on October 4, 2024. For the time being, audiences can watch Joker (2019), which is available for streaming on Max.
Source: The Telegraph
Always having had a deep fascination for content creation and pop-culture, Debdipta joined as a writer at FandomWire in 2022. Currently pursuing an undergraduate Mass Communication degree, Debdipta enjoys the intricacies of cinema and film-making, with a year of screenwriting experience to account for. Besides her knack for writing, she’s also an avid reader, a connoisseur of music across all genres, and a die-hard fan of Charlie Kaufman.
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A fight inside Mankato East High School last week Friday is re-igniting the debate over school resource officers in Minnesota. In a video taken in the hallways of the school building, school officials say about 10 students were involved in that brawl. One of the students assaulted was Nashawn William’s son.
“I was upset,” said Williams. “He had a blood clot in his right eye at the bottom and his upper torso was swollen…They could have killed my son stomping him on the floor, like you all saw the video, they could have killed my son.”
The fight comes after Supt. Paul Peterson told families in an email this month that “SROs will not be physically located at MAPS schools but will be available on an ‘on call’ basis to assist school staff.”
Scott Hare, Director of Student Support Services with Mankato Area Public Schools, said police were called in to break up the fight. He added that if an SRO had been in the building, the situation would have looked different.
“Having an officer on site, they’re right there. It’s very fast. It will take a couple of minutes for other officers to arrive through 911,” said Hare. “An SRO can read the situation and make the correct judgment call on the type of support that they would need to bring in.”
A new law prohibits SROs from placing a student in a face-down position and bans certain holds on the head, neck and across most of the torso. Besides Mankato, at least a dozen other law enforcement agencies have pulled their SROs across the state arguing the law would prevent them from doing their job.
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“Once you take that presence out of the school, everybody feels like they can run around because they know the teachers can’t do anything,” said Williams.
Elizabeth Hanke is a parent within the school district and believes the state is overreaching by getting involved with placing policies at schools.
“We need more local government and community involvement. We need to give authority and agency back to our teachers and police officers, and still be able to hold them accountable for when they’re not doing their jobs effectively,” said Hanke.
Last month, Attorney General Keith Ellison said what’s written in the law is clear, however, Governor Tim Walz’s office tells 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS Walz remains open to a special session addressing this matter.
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The last Fight Week prior to the mega Fulton-Inoue/Spence-Crawford showdowns offers up some interesting action.
FRIDAY
Thompson Boxing sadly bids farewell after 23 years of promoting boxing in Southern California. Their final show is headlined by welterweight Louie Lopez (13-2-1, 4 KOs) against an opponent TBA. You can catch the action on YouTube and Facebook.
SATURDAY
ESPN presents former undisputed lightweight champion George “Ferocious” Kambosos Jr. (20-2, 10 KOs) against Maxi Hughes (26-5-2, 5 KOs) in a twelve round IBF world title eliminator from the FireLake Arena in Shawnee, Oklahoma.
UFC Fightpass has exciting junior middleweight KO artist Serhii “El Flaco” Bohachuk (22-1, 22 KOs) against former world title challenger Patrick Allotey (42-4, 32 KOs) at the Chumash Casino Resort in Santa Ynez, California.
ProBox TV has a pro fight card from the Radisson Victoria Plaza in Montevideo, Uruguay, with middleweight Amilcar Vidal Jr (16-1, 12 KOs) rebounding from his first loss against Domicio Rondon (17-5, 11 KOs).
So we have a fighter from Australia against a UK fighter at a venue on Oklahoma. Looks like this one will go the distance!
My thoughts (re the fighters and venue) exactly but why do you think that this means a distance fight?
Am I ridiculous for thinking that Hughes has a chance in this one, Pete?? He’s been on a nice little run as of late against some decent guys including a former world champion, albeit a blown-up featherweight.
I was just thinking the same. Maxi is on a nice run; If you take away the win against a mentally and physically compromised Teo, has George done much?
Getting whitewashed against Haney twice and close wins against Bet and Selby doesn’t make a great resume. I think Maxi is a live dog.
Don’ think so-has five losses and not much KO power. Kambosos pretty average as well but should have enough to beat this guy.
Only time he got f’d up was vs someone who wore Reyes gloves. As long as Kambosos isn’t wearing those, Hughes may not be psyched out. He like kept the Reyes gloves and showed them off about how much he hated the padding and feel to them. It was in a YouTube video.
I think he does have a chance. I always felt the stars aligned perfect for Kambosos when he fought Lopez. Lopez was overconfident and fought a fight that gave Kambosos a chance. Plus he was better at taking Lopez’s power then we thought which I also think caught Lopez off guard. Other then that, like Streetgang said…what else has he really done that separates him from Hughes? I maybe in the minority but I thought Selby beat him.
So yes I think Hughes could outpoint him. I am not sure if that is my pick but it is a reasonable outcome. Just to clarify when I earlier said it would go the distance I was referring to their KO % …that comment had nothing to do with the venue which I do not think will be relevant as to whether it goes the distance or not.
I remember the Selby fight and thinking it was close but Lee may have nicked it.
I will be pulling for Maxi, George has become a bit unbearable for me.
I think I might just take this week off and just save the excitement for next weekend
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The IBF’s 38th Annual Convention will kick off this weekend at The Fairmont Chicago Millennium Park, in Chicago, Illinois from May 28 – June 1, 2023. After 38 years, the organization will be returning to the Midwest to celebrate the IBF’s 40th year. The IBF celebrated its 2nd Annual Convention in Dearborn, Michigan in 1985 and a return to the region is long overdue. “We are excited for this milestone event and are looking forward to gathering with the boxing community in Chicago and the Midwest,” said IBF President Daryl Peoples.
During the convention the IBF hosts several events and seminars. Notably, the IBF also presents annual awards at each convention, and proudly announces its top award recipients for 2022 to be presented at the Awards Banquet closing the organization’s convention festivities on Wednesday, May 31, 2023. The IBF is proud to announce some of it’s top awards for 2022 in anticipation of the upcoming convention.
Jersey Joe Walcott Award
The Jersey Joe Walcott Award, the organization’s highest honor, will go to Naoya Inoue. In spectacular fashion, Inoue unified the Bantamweight division with a second-round knockout win over Nonito Donaire. Naoya won the IBF title in 2019 and defended six times.
Female Fighter of the Year
Receiving the IBF Female Fighter of the Year Award is Chantelle Cameron who unified the Female Jr. Welterweight division. Cameron put on an exciting performance when she beat Undisputed Welterweight Champion Jessica McCaskill by unanimous decision and became the Undisputed Champion in the division.
Fight of the Year
IBF– Sivenathi Nontshinga vs. Hector Flores
Female – Katie Taylor vs. Amada Serrano
Intercontinental – Mark Heffron vs. Lennox Clarke
USBA – Robeisy Ramirez vs. Abraham Nova
Jessica McCaskill and Murodjon Akhmadaliev are recieving Championship Rings for 3 successful title defenses.
“We proudly celebrate the notable achievements and remarkable careers of our champions, and the boxers that participated in IBF title fights. These are very well-deserved distinctions as all these fighters have worked incredibly hard to attain these accomplishments. We look forward to celebrating them,” noted Daryl Peoples.
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